Reverie
2 min readApr 7, 2021

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Your sneering dismissal of being in the present moment as somehow childish and lacking in social, scientific or philosophical understanding is such a testament to your rampant cynicism and ironically your quite narrow view. A lot of brilliant thinkers, great businesspeople, loving philanthropists and responsible family members are able to balance a sense of "identification with the cosmic interconnectedness/consciousness" which is mystical experience, and at the same time participate in the day to day responsibilities of "real life". I'm not saying you have to or that it's necessarily right for you - you can do whatever you want - but don't strawman mysticism or stereotype its adherents when you don't actually know much about them.

I'm a pantheist who has experienced nondual consciousness, and who is extremely interested in the science of consciousness, as well as quantum physics, evolutionary biology, fractal mathematics, history and philosophy - and at the same time I also am a successful corporate salesperson who makes a fairly high salary, I have never been in debt, I support a loved one financially and have dealt with major trauma, saved someone's life from suicide etc. I think I understand the reality of suffering and the nature of the world at least as well as you do. And yet I don't have the same beliefs as you! Imagine that - people being able to have different beliefs and STILL BE RESPONSIBLE ADULTS. Shocking I know.

"Everything can seem alright if we can imagine it's only appearances that deceive" - except being "alright" is a state of mind. Yes physical hardship exists, injustice exists etc, but one can still maintain equanimity and inner peace, even happiness, without being ignorant of such things, by taking a larger perspective. In fact a lot of spiritual perspectives were developed by people who intimately understood suffering (such as the Buddha).

In fact a lot of social conventions, business conventions - they are constructs that we can choose whether or not to let them rule us. And if we choose a different perspective than the norm, that doesn't make one "childish" necessarily. Despite what you cynically and quite nastily try to allege - there is more than one way to have a responsible life. And it doesn't have to be that "adulthood means cynicism and deep nihilism and everything else is facile ignorance" like you seem to think.

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Reverie
Reverie

Written by Reverie

“The nature of our immortal lives is in the consequences of our words and deeds” — Cloud Atlas

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